We Without having read that draft article yet, I would say that "cutting = against the grain" doesn't necessarily imply ignoring the physical laws = of the universe to the point of complete abstraction. There are = infinite ways to organize musical sounds within any set of restrictions, = of course. That any sound can follow any other sound is true, as Cage = said. But what's the point? He said he had no point - purposeless = music. That was the culmination of Western musical egocentrism - by = denying all ego, through contrived methodologies. And from time to = time, he hesitantly (as if somewhat unsure of what the total = implications of this might be in a wider sense) suggested that music = could be a guide that would "sober and quiet the mind, thus making it = susceptible to divine influence." Other musics deny ego in a direct = manner, by confronting it and letting go of it as it is being created - = e.g., in the mystical traditions of Middle Eastern performers. One = question of great importance that this leads to is, can it be done by a = composer who is separated from the role of performer? Is it even = possible, with the limitations of notation? can observe Cage's philosophy of imitating nature. Nature, however, = is not random. It is multifarious, as Cage understood. Yet, for = whatever reason, because he couldn't innately create art in a way that = generated the diversity found in nature, he had to devise contrived ways = of approximating it. Surely there is a more natural way that confronts = our fallibility, for those who are so inclined, where through practice, = a sort of perfection of diversity is possible to attain. Do we hold on = to and keep Jungian archetypes in such case? Again, as Cage professed, = music is not to be an object but a process (an experience). In the = process of composing or composing/performing these archetypes are = brought to the surface and recognized for what they are. We are not = attached to them. They evolve, these ideas - some die, some regenerate, = etc. Just as in nature. The process of evolving as a = composer/performer is like the growth of a plant. Or, it can be, if we = prefer, to be like the creation of a manufacturing plant. There certainly has been a mindset in the west which has disallowed the = emergence of mystics on a large scale, moreso than in other parts of the = planet. The West's mystics are its scientists. Give me something I can = use - not empty words or music! And yet there are so many neuroses that = develop in individuals in the West, I wonder sometimes what it is we = have lost. It seems we have lost a sense of beauty and harmony with the = natural world which we inhabit. Mitchell Renner mitchellrenner@msn.com
new jazz is like contemporary art in process of evolvement and gets built up in continuum and thru live multimedia...
 
 
cutting = against the grain" doesn't necessarily imply ignoring the physical laws = of the universe to the point of complete abstraction.